mats i believe ur gtv from the pics ive seen is the earlier series body type or am i corrected. if so i think there r some big differences between the eralier cars and later cars body types. please correct me if im wrong here guys.
patzo_3l
3l gtv6 turbo 85'
2006 147 gta selespeed
1990 75 twinspark
1998 spider
2.0l gtv 85'
33 1.7ie
3l gtv6 turbo 85'
2006 147 gta selespeed
1990 75 twinspark
1998 spider
2.0l gtv 85'
33 1.7ie
The early GTV could be made really light with some money and lots of time. 850 kg is no problem at all.
The sedan is slightly heavier but I think it could be made very close. Think positive: you have 4 instead of 2 doors to shave 20 kg each from!
Barryman: When you put the DeDions on the scale they might have included the driveshafts? The difference in 2.0 and V6 is rather big.
The sedan is slightly heavier but I think it could be made very close. Think positive: you have 4 instead of 2 doors to shave 20 kg each from!
Barryman: When you put the DeDions on the scale they might have included the driveshafts? The difference in 2.0 and V6 is rather big.
Guys,
I must admit I have only made reference to my Haynes Manual for this info and I hope it is correct because it makes some interesting claims.
For instance, the humble sedan with 4 doors and all weighs 172 kg less than the coupe with full tank of fuel. 1060 vs 1232 kg. Sorry to contradict you Micke.
The second bonus is that it has a wider front track by 6mm and is longer in the wheelbase by 110mm to provide a sweeter ride and less twitch on the limit than the coupe.
..food for thought? The flying brick is definitely my choice.
Apologies for the crappy reproduction
I must admit I have only made reference to my Haynes Manual for this info and I hope it is correct because it makes some interesting claims.
For instance, the humble sedan with 4 doors and all weighs 172 kg less than the coupe with full tank of fuel. 1060 vs 1232 kg. Sorry to contradict you Micke.
The second bonus is that it has a wider front track by 6mm and is longer in the wheelbase by 110mm to provide a sweeter ride and less twitch on the limit than the coupe.
..food for thought? The flying brick is definitely my choice.
Apologies for the crappy reproduction
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Transaxle Alfas Haul More Arse
Difference in track is because the rims have different ET, the same can be seen on the different 75 models too.
I firmly believe that the 1060kg figure is not correct, that must be a typo.
However, I'm also convinced that the 75 body is lighter then the GTV. Not sure about Alfetta sedan though.
I firmly believe that the 1060kg figure is not correct, that must be a typo.
However, I'm also convinced that the 75 body is lighter then the GTV. Not sure about Alfetta sedan though.
Mats Strandberg
-Scuderia Rosso- Now burned to the ground...
-onemanracing.com-
-Strandberg.photography-
GTV 2000 -77 - Died in the fire.
155 V6 Sport -96 - Sold!
-Scuderia Rosso- Now burned to the ground...
-onemanracing.com-
-Strandberg.photography-
GTV 2000 -77 - Died in the fire.
155 V6 Sport -96 - Sold!
yep after stripping several gtvs and 75s i am convinced that the 75 is the lighter of the two. seems to me that thinner steel and different construction methods have contributed to this. having said this in my eyes the giullietta would have to be the lightest transaxle. i have dealt with a few and it seems to me that they would have to without contest be the lightest , however i could be wrong and if someone has a document with all the weights of the different models would finally but my thoughts to rest as to which one truly is the lightest.
patzo_3l
3l gtv6 turbo 85'
2006 147 gta selespeed
1990 75 twinspark
1998 spider
2.0l gtv 85'
33 1.7ie
3l gtv6 turbo 85'
2006 147 gta selespeed
1990 75 twinspark
1998 spider
2.0l gtv 85'
33 1.7ie
MD,
Another piece of your puzzle... I just rebuilt the driveshaft for my budget race car and had it balanced. This is a milano driveshaft (has the pinch bolt, not all do, and the skinny center coupling). I put it on the scale today before putting it back in. In complete form: 27 lbs.
Jes
Another piece of your puzzle... I just rebuilt the driveshaft for my budget race car and had it balanced. This is a milano driveshaft (has the pinch bolt, not all do, and the skinny center coupling). I put it on the scale today before putting it back in. In complete form: 27 lbs.
Jes
87 Milano Verde - daily driver - Juliet
87 Milano 3.0 Motronic - budget race car - Roxanne
87 Milano 3.7 24v - race car
(Repeat or do as I say at your own risk - be critical)
87 Milano 3.0 Motronic - budget race car - Roxanne
87 Milano 3.7 24v - race car
(Repeat or do as I say at your own risk - be critical)
Micke,Just confirmed with Jose..8 kg difference between heaviest and the lightest De Dion tube...He weighed 9 of them,all he had..
His car weighed 764 Kg`s...This car is featured in Auto Italia Magazine soon..Its going to be on the Front page..
Roberto Gordianelli was here and did the driving...
Look out for the feature..
His car weighed 764 Kg`s...This car is featured in Auto Italia Magazine soon..Its going to be on the Front page..
Roberto Gordianelli was here and did the driving...
Look out for the feature..
On the subject of racing weights and rear ends, we all know the the v6 units have the larger diameter drive shafts and larger journals and larger bolts than the 2 litre cars. All this makes for more strength and weight.
I was wondering if anyone out there has used the original 2 litre rear set up with a seriously worked over racing 2 litre motor and found no breakages. Anotherwords, is the larger everything an overkill ?
I was wondering if anyone out there has used the original 2 litre rear set up with a seriously worked over racing 2 litre motor and found no breakages. Anotherwords, is the larger everything an overkill ?
Transaxle Alfas Haul More Arse
Larger journals?
People are driving race cars with TS boxes and prepped turbo engines so yeah, I'd say the v6 boxes are over engineered.
I'd also think that the braking torque is the dimensioning load not engine load.
People are driving race cars with TS boxes and prepped turbo engines so yeah, I'd say the v6 boxes are over engineered.
I'd also think that the braking torque is the dimensioning load not engine load.
Mats Strandberg
-Scuderia Rosso- Now burned to the ground...
-onemanracing.com-
-Strandberg.photography-
GTV 2000 -77 - Died in the fire.
155 V6 Sport -96 - Sold!
-Scuderia Rosso- Now burned to the ground...
-onemanracing.com-
-Strandberg.photography-
GTV 2000 -77 - Died in the fire.
155 V6 Sport -96 - Sold!