Increased plennum volume for GTA 3.2
After seen the superb hand made plennums on Barry's bigbore engines and JJ's(Dawie) I have made larger plennum from two 2.5 GTV plennums cut in half and seam welded up. It does not unfortunatey have the same volumes as Barry's and Dawies but it is better than before for this 3.2 GTA engine .
A few pics to follow.
A few pics to follow.
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Nice work....
You know, I would probably like to see more vertical height at the front of the plenum area - no room - I know) in addition to the width that you have gained here. That front cylinder (1 or 6?) starves a bit because the throttle body and associated air-intake is all of the way at the back and the thing is much higher back there, so there are some know lean issues up front as compared to the rear cylinders...
It is a non-issue on the turbo cars because the blower puts the entire plenum under pressure...
Still, nice work!
You know, I would probably like to see more vertical height at the front of the plenum area - no room - I know) in addition to the width that you have gained here. That front cylinder (1 or 6?) starves a bit because the throttle body and associated air-intake is all of the way at the back and the thing is much higher back there, so there are some know lean issues up front as compared to the rear cylinders...
It is a non-issue on the turbo cars because the blower puts the entire plenum under pressure...
Still, nice work!
...to Alfa, or not to Alfa? That is the question...
Hi JJ, you are absolutely correct as no 1 pot is still the loser here. I have thought of putting a 3.0l bonnet on as this gives me alot more vertical height for the no 1 pot, but my intention with this car was to leave its external appearences original including the 2.5 badge on the back. As this really surprises the M3 boys and the AMG mercs. Having said this the 17'' rims dont look original but my old 15'' would not fit over the the Praggia calipers.
Did you see the plennum Barry made for the 3.8l with the standard bonnet. Its got great vertical height and width but it was to difficult for me to do, so I went with what I had.
Cheers
Did you see the plennum Barry made for the 3.8l with the standard bonnet. Its got great vertical height and width but it was to difficult for me to do, so I went with what I had.
Cheers
I don't get it, the reason for the taper on towards the front is because the cross section needs to be bigger where air to multiple cylinders are flowing, like right where the TB is, up in front there are only two cylinders so naturally the cross section doesn't have to be all that big.
Same thing in on the 75 TS plenums, taper towards the end to keep the air velocity up.
Don't be so quick to dismiss the AR engineers as idiots.
Same thing in on the 75 TS plenums, taper towards the end to keep the air velocity up.
Don't be so quick to dismiss the AR engineers as idiots.
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Nope! Wrong. It has been PROVEN with individual metering that the front cylinder runs lean due to the shape of the plenum....
BTW - I don’t believe that I used the term “idiots” or even implied anything as drastic…
The taper down toward the front was for hood clearance (especially on a GTV6...)
AR also tried to address overall airflow INSIDE of the plenums by changing the internal design of the 75 V6 plenum form the GTV6 plenum... (A GTV6 plenum has stubs sticking up inside of the plenum, while the later Milano/75 style plenums have radius edge...
The big intakes on the 3.7s are opposite for that exact reason - a greater mass of air available to the cylinders closest to the intake-side.
BTW - I don’t believe that I used the term “idiots” or even implied anything as drastic…
The taper down toward the front was for hood clearance (especially on a GTV6...)
AR also tried to address overall airflow INSIDE of the plenums by changing the internal design of the 75 V6 plenum form the GTV6 plenum... (A GTV6 plenum has stubs sticking up inside of the plenum, while the later Milano/75 style plenums have radius edge...
The big intakes on the 3.7s are opposite for that exact reason - a greater mass of air available to the cylinders closest to the intake-side.
...to Alfa, or not to Alfa? That is the question...