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Crank position sensor mount

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:59 pm
by Greg Gordon
I just thought I would show our crank position sensor mount. It's very strong, you can easily lift the engine with it. It can be removed for belt changes and reinstalled without upsetting the adjustments. Overall I am pretty happy with it. We have a few variations, GTV6, Milano, with A/C or without...

The crank sensor mount is the most critical issue with SDS. If it vibrates, it's bad news, that's why it has to be so strong.

Greg Gordon,
www.hiperformancestore.com

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:09 pm
by ar4me
Is it more critical than on the Motronic V6?
Jes

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:47 am
by x-rad
greg: what kind of pickup....dual magnet? single?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:08 am
by Greg Gordon
Jes: I suspect they are both equally critical, however it's a lot more trouble to adapt a toothed wheel to a 12 valve car. Of course if you are starting with a Motronic car you already have a toothed wheel and a factory sensor mount so it's a non issue.

x-rad: quad

Greg

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:33 pm
by x-rad
Greg, how do you get a home signal from your quad setup for a six cylinder?

quality looks excellent by the way..

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:54 pm
by Mats
Wasted spark? Wouldn't need a phase sensor.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:55 am
by x-rad
I figure if with a crank sensor this nice there woul be a home signal and individual port injection timing ;no teeth so count by magnets?

otherwise you would only need one mag ...??.. :?

what is really cool is the Haltech dual channel Hall sensor for crank position magnets:

http://www.spooledmotorsports.com/halte ... nsors.html

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:10 am
by Greg Gordon
Whoa, OK, I think I misread x-rad's question, and I am not familiar with the term "home" in regards to sensors. To clear all this up I will explain the whole thing.

The SDS crank position sensing system uses 4 magnets in the crank pulley. Three of these magnets are "trigger" magnets. The fourth magnet is a "synchronization" magnet. It only needs three triggers magnets for the 6 cyl Alfa because it fires two spark plugs at a time.

There are two pickups mounted on the position sensor. The first senses the syncro magnet and the other senses the 3 trigger magnets.

Obviously the magnets in the crank pulley have to be positioned in certain places in relation ship to TDC and certain distances from each other. The SDS computer can compensate for errors in magnet position to an extent.

In regards to our sensor mount, we actually have a few versions.
1. Milano with A/C
2. Milano without A/C
3. GTV6 with a Milano A/C compressor
4. GTV6 without A/C

We are not going to bother with making a mount for a GTV6 with a GTV6 A/C compressor since those compressors suck.

I am so happy with this mount I am upgrading older versions I sold to this newer type entirely at my expense. The old one worked well but it required the sensor to be realigned after a belt change.

Greg Gordon,
www.hiperformancestore.com

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:18 am
by Greg Gordon
I should add, this is all explained very clearly in the SDS instruction manual. It's also really easy to tune this system.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:25 am
by Barry
Greg,The sync trigger is more commonly known as a "home" trigger.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:32 pm
by Greg Gordon
Thanks Barry. Automotive terminology varies so much it gets confusion.