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Re: Suspension

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:20 am
by Mats
MD wrote:Answer is 5 on the front and 2 at the rear..and no, the lift is not due to any road irregularity, apparently that comes a bit later in the bend ( i am told)
Maybe he should get his shocks checked out then... :roll:

Re: Suspension

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:58 pm
by MD
OOh, that's a bit unkind.

No Mats, that's not correct. I personally know this very well sorted car and it's hard charging driver. It used to be supercharged for a number of seasons so he put it back to naturally aspirated when he ran out of competition in that class.

Trust me, It's all about the pace and nothing else.Let's not take anything away from Andrew's enthusiasm here.

Re: Suspension

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:05 pm
by Mats
So you're trying to tell me it goes up on two wheels in the corners due to grip and amazing chassis tuning? Unless the CG of the car is incredibly high (100Kg on the roof) that is not likely to happen with proper chassis tuning. It's once in a season you see that happening to professional race cars and then only when they charge the curbs really hard.

Sorry about the rain. :P

Re: Suspension

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:14 am
by Zamani
Rain? Try hail, blizzard, frost. :mrgreen:

Re: Suspension

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:21 am
by Mats
Truth hurts... 8)

Re: Suspension

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:00 pm
by MD
Er.. yes...well ummm think I can't add much more here without starting a shit fight so I will just quietly close the door,let the photos do the talking and do a few burnouts on the way out....

Re: Suspension

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:31 pm
by Barry
and with that I rest my case Mike....

Re: Suspension

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:46 pm
by Zamani
Hey Baz....

Re: Suspension

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:20 pm
by GTV27
well, I'm subscribing to the mid-corner dip theory (can almost see it in the photo), but am not keen to enter into diagnosis of chassis issues - positive or negative- from 1 photo (I'm not that clever)

nice looking car all the same.

Re: Suspension

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:40 am
by Barry
Hey Z ! ... :mrgreen:

Re: Suspension

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:37 am
by kevin
I took a whole lot of pics on 4 cyl gtv race car on the weekend on allits supension etc. This car is absolutely brilliant in design and on the track. It races in our legends series and holds off some our 7litre mustangs. He runs now three seconds faster than my 24v. Yes it does way 800kg's but its superb . Cut long story short I was going to post awhole bunch of pics until his mechanic said " dont post any of those on the net ''. Any im only going to post one pic of his toe,camber set up on the dedion which uses two flanges and tapered wedge made to correct angle setting. This design allows you try a whole bunch of options at the track without having to strip the dedion and re heat and bend. Tell me what you think

Re: Suspension

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:42 pm
by MD
Nice idea for sure. Just how much adjustment it would get in use is hard to say once the "mean values" were set. I dont beleive a car's suspension would neet THAT much tinkering with on a regular basis. If it did, it certainly lends itself for other conversions that makes for adjustability like the front end by some sort of thread and lock nut configuration.

Re: Suspension

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:38 pm
by MR2 Zig
Yeah , but the trial and error going thru however many steps to find what works when there isn't a 'formula' or a 'recipie' or any advise to be had....this lets you find out what will work for a particular setup...then you can bend a fixed version to match if you want.

That kind of thinking is part of why he's so fast.

Re: Suspension

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:27 am
by Mats
I have actually thought about something similar but to use a hub from a FWD car 916 GTV for instance, four screws and adjusted by "wedges" like that one. Never got round to it but it would be nice.
Can see a big benefit in being able to easily adjust camber and toe at the track.

Re: Suspension

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:50 am
by kevin
The main reason why he did the rear like this was, initally he had cut the dedion and rewelded to 1.5 deg camber BUT just like most who have done this it had crept up to another degree by the time welding was complete. I think this is the cheapest solution(in the long run) to avoid the hit and miss aproach for extreme accuracy. My race car for some strange reason has 1deg neg on left rear and .5 deg positive on right rear. its never been in an accident so maybe accuracy was not the finest priority when welding at the factory. Unless mine is a one off. Anyone else have this problem?