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Greg Gordon
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Thanks Greg!
I think the height of the back in real life looks lower.
Like on next picture.
Is it still too high?
(Anyway, I will lower the back some mms, and i'm really pleased that you like my cars apperance.
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I think the height of the back in real life looks lower.
Like on next picture.
Is it still too high?
(Anyway, I will lower the back some mms, and i'm really pleased that you like my cars apperance.
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- Bad quality image taken some years ago on another race.
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'The GTV': '83 GTV6; (summer)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
Brian, Mats
The lowest part of mine is the oil sump, and that is 84 mm. (The King Size box minus 3. )
65mm from ground to exhaust is remarkable anyway.
But in my case it's not managable. 
The lowest part of mine is the oil sump, and that is 84 mm. (The King Size box minus 3.
)65mm from ground to exhaust is remarkable anyway.
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'The GTV': '83 GTV6; (summer)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
I have found a Milano front sway bar among my spare parts! It's almost twice as thick as the original GTV6 one, and I'd like to install it. I've read on the older forum (maybe by you Greg, I'm not sure) that is doesn't really have a large effect on cars with stiff suspension.
But there's the factory setup under mine.
Would you think it will have a good effect on handling, cornering, etc? (I use this on the road, and not planning large modifications. )
But there's the factory setup under mine.
Would you think it will have a good effect on handling, cornering, etc? (I use this on the road, and not planning large modifications.
)'The GTV': '83 GTV6; (summer)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
Hi guys.
I know it's not increasing performance, nor reducing exhaust gases, but I think highly increase interior apperance!
Bought it form e-Bay, recieved it today, and I'm very delighted.
I know it's not increasing performance, nor reducing exhaust gases, but I think highly increase interior apperance!
Bought it form e-Bay, recieved it today, and I'm very delighted.
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'The GTV': '83 GTV6; (summer)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
Some update:
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- And this was taken last weekend at Selenia Rally, organized by Alfa Romeo Club Hungary
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- Two weeks before I completely renewed the driveshaft; felx joints, center support, bearing.
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- A refubrished twin plate clutch was installed two weeks ago. It used to have a Milano type single plate, which now I replaced with the factory unit. The behaviour, the flexibility and the revviness of the car is AMAZING! Knowing the laws of phisics and ha
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- Yellow Konis all around.
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- Yellow Konis at the front. There's no picture about it, but the front sway bar was also replaced by a stiffer one from a Milano. Here the original unit can be seen.
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'The GTV': '83 GTV6; (summer)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
And the Nardi of course was installed.
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- The Nardi was installed, with an almost custom fabricated hub. This is a modified RAID GTV hub extended with a Nardi 155 hub to get the right driving position and comfort.
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'The GTV': '83 GTV6; (summer)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
Not necessarily.
The theory is right. Stiffening one end lowers the traction of it.
However, to my surprise some 17 years (shit, is it really that long) ago, stiffening the front of the original Alfetta (or 75/GTV) reduces understeer!
This can easily be explained.
The main reason for US of the 116 chassis isn't load transfer but the fact that the rear tires always stay orthogonal to the track (= 0 deg camber). Whereas the outer front tire builds up a LOT of positive camber in heavy cornering. This reduces grip much more than is lost by the load transfer with stiffer springs/AR bars.
When the suspension is tuned to moderate roll and decent camber the theory of load transfer applies to 100%
The theory is right. Stiffening one end lowers the traction of it.
However, to my surprise some 17 years (shit, is it really that long) ago, stiffening the front of the original Alfetta (or 75/GTV) reduces understeer!
This can easily be explained.
The main reason for US of the 116 chassis isn't load transfer but the fact that the rear tires always stay orthogonal to the track (= 0 deg camber). Whereas the outer front tire builds up a LOT of positive camber in heavy cornering. This reduces grip much more than is lost by the load transfer with stiffer springs/AR bars.
When the suspension is tuned to moderate roll and decent camber the theory of load transfer applies to 100%
Thanks Guys for the reply.
I use my car in normal circumstances, it has never been on the track. Maybe sometimes...
The KONI's are set to factory setting, so at the softest level.
I used to have problems with nodding the front at braking and on bad road surface. This was because of lowering and the 'heavy' V6, I think, because the factory shocks were in good condition.
And I also did have problems with body roll and oversteer ( I used to have LSD already inside). I don't know why, but it often lost grip in hard cornering. The worst case last year can be seen on the picture.
With this setup - KONI', Milano sway bar and LSD - it handles really neutral, I still have comfort, nodding is lost (and this is because of sway bar, I'tried the KONIs with the orig one as well), and the gain in almost every corner I use is at least 10 km/h. So I'm pretty satisfied.
It wouldn't be so fine maybe on the track, but on the road it's competitive.
I use my car in normal circumstances, it has never been on the track. Maybe sometimes...
The KONI's are set to factory setting, so at the softest level.
I used to have problems with nodding the front at braking and on bad road surface. This was because of lowering and the 'heavy' V6, I think, because the factory shocks were in good condition.
And I also did have problems with body roll and oversteer ( I used to have LSD already inside). I don't know why, but it often lost grip in hard cornering. The worst case last year can be seen on the picture.
With this setup - KONI', Milano sway bar and LSD - it handles really neutral, I still have comfort, nodding is lost (and this is because of sway bar, I'tried the KONIs with the orig one as well), and the gain in almost every corner I use is at least 10 km/h. So I'm pretty satisfied.
It wouldn't be so fine maybe on the track, but on the road it's competitive.
'The GTV': '83 GTV6; (summer)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)
' Mr Brown': '82 Alfetta 2000L; (family car)
'The Little Red': '79 Alfasud 1.3 Super; (under restoration)