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how much lowering on front 2.0 116?

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:32 pm
by franksun
Hello there!
This is my first post on this forum.

My Car is a AR GTV 2.0 82mod, the suspension consist of 3cm lowered rear (eibach springs) and bilstein b6 sport on all 4 corners, And I wonder if anyone here know how much i should lower my FRONT to not mess up the symmetry and driving abilities on the car.

Kind regards from norway
Frank

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:53 pm
by Barry
Hi Frank..
The idea with the front is to keep the lca`s parallel to the tarmac whenever possible..
There are numerous posts here about this subject,I suggest the search function perhaps.
MD has a novel way of sorting this problem out by using some obscure upside down balljoint he sourced..

I replied to the pm ..
and welcome to gtv6.!!

Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:41 pm
by Mats
That "parallell to tarmac" theory I have never quite understood, is it by chance that the Roll Center is at an acceptable height at that ride height?

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:21 am
by franksun
thanks for the replys lawds, Yes I can see that there are ALOT of info about this on this forum. But no excact answers (maybe there arent any answer? ) well ill search and thanks :)

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 10:43 am
by Mats
Exact answers will be given to exact questions. 8)

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:04 pm
by MD
Frank,

As Barry has said, I do use an upside down balljoint setup for the my race car and lots of other modifications too to compliment that.

However, it is not recommended that you do this for a street car.

To be perfectly honest, just lowering the rear as you have done is all that is needed. The quest for a low slung Japanes style lady killer is foolish for this car specifically at best. I know we all would love to see the gtv 2mm off the ground but hey, stiff sheit, it wont happen.

Leave the front alone and just fit good quality tyres,dampers all round and likewise with brake pads and just enjoy the car how it was intended to be for the street before you make cosmetic changes that actually degrade the whole chassis.

Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:19 pm
by grant
It's true, the cars drive the best when they're at stock height. It seems you can only get away with lowering the car and reaping the benefits if you increase the spring rates by a large amount, ( to keep the sump off the ground for one, and also to compensate for the knackered geometry that's just been created) or make things really good by modifying the spindles for better grip and handling ($$$).

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:55 am
by franksun
grant: Can you tell me what happends to the geometry? Interesting subject

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:16 pm
by grant
The entire thread is a long read, but there's a lot of information there!

Here is a really crappy visual to help you out.

http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/milano- ... ion-3.html

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:34 pm
by franksun
Thanks grant, seems like there is alot of very interesting information on this subject, I will stay up all night reading :lol: :oops: