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x-rad · Post by **x-rad** » Mon May 14, 2007 2:16 pm

Born Nov 19, 1985...Tuesday..per Alfa records

Must have been built with the last of the old parts OR someone switched out trannys!!!

I have to say that my trans shifts really smoothly which is not the norm..

Nicholas · Post by **Nicholas** » Tue May 15, 2007 12:39 am

My car, which was complianced here in Australia in Aug 85" and sold as an 1985 model was built in Dec 84" and it has an Isostatic linkage and has the final version dash.

brookstroutr · Post by **brookstroutr** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:59 pm

x-rad,

Did you get your gearbox & linkage in? I found a not too old rebuilt '85 for mine similar to yours. I didn't get the shifter so I modded the rod link with some washers. The fotos of the shifter parts helped me put mine together as well. I am having a bit of the clearance problem using the air hammer to fit this in my '84. Anybody know just how much body mod it takes to accomplish this? Also, is the later shifter different other than the connecting link?

x-rad · Post by **x-rad** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:38 pm

no..have not had the time...trying to track down a engine problem

Actually, I decided to keep my old tranny in because it shifts so nicely...just need new universal axle covers and axle seals and clutch

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:21 pm

Linkage at the bottom of the stick is different.

brookstroutr · Post by **brookstroutr** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:47 am

Mats,

What are the differences in the old vs. the iso shifters? I surmise the width of the bottom bolt connection is different. Is the length any shorter or longer as well?

Mats · Post by **Mats** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:57 am

The fork is of different width as I remember it.

x-rad · Post by **x-rad** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:11 am

I thought there wass slightly more throw at the shift end too?? (in other words, more length between mounting ball and fork)

brookstroutr · Post by **brookstroutr** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:39 am

I think your right about the shifter length being longer from the ball socket down to the bottom connector. I've only got the original shifter and the connecting rod is rubbing the driveshaft center support bracket. I don't know if this is binding up the shifter rod or not. The rod on the iso connection, the short one with the 2 ball joint ends about 1 1/2" long, keeps popping off. It was disconnected when I got the parts.

The fork end of the shifting rod is definitely wider. I filled this in with a couple of washers.

DaveH · Post by **DaveH** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:24 am

Milano:

shifter 'eye': ID = 14m, L = 20mm

86 GTV6:

shifter eye: ID = 12mm, L = 20mm

84 GTV6:

shifter eye: ID = 12mm(?), L = possibly less than above, thru bolt needs to be 5mm shorter. Basically the only simple upgrade here is re-bushing. Every 2 years...

All use a poor quality thru-bolt of odd dia. To upgrade, the rod fork ID should be (barely) enlarged, to 8mm, allowing a precision shoulder bolt to be used. Which makes sourcing bushings/bearings easier.

SamW · Post by **SamW** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:08 am

I have Dave's upgrade kit in both my '86 GTV6 and my 88 Milano Verde, the GTV6 kit has about 25k miles on it and is still doing great, the Milano only has about 10k miles on it and is also doing great.

DaveH · Post by **DaveH** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:36 am

Yeah, I forgot to mention, I have a roller bearing upgrade kit for 86 and newer 116 cars.

Sorry to pimp my wares, Michael.

brookstroutr · Post by **brookstroutr** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:07 pm

Dave,

Two questions.

1. Can you explain about the 'rod' specs you supplied. I'm not quite grasping as I'm getting run down restoring my GTV6.
2. Give me some detail on the bearing upgrade as I'm interested.

I measured the inside width on the connecting rod on the iso and original; 20mm vs. 15mm respectively. I believe if the original could be mated properly, it should make a shorter throw.

brookstroutr · Post by **brookstroutr** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:27 pm

Forgot to ask another question. Is the Milano shifter a compatible replacement? I'm checking my options here. I seem to remember my research on this issue a few years back that it is. True or bogus?

x-rad · Post by **x-rad** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:01 pm

If you put in the Milano shifter in, i think you need to transplant the whole carrier housing.....